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Maura McLaughlin

mmm....bread. After I take my brownies out of the oven, the bread is going in.

Joe

Well, fill us in, for God's sake: how the hell was it?

John

I have done three loaves of this bread and it is freakin' awesome. Print and save these articles. You will use them over and over. I saw the Times article when it first came out and started the dough the next day. It turned out great. I started my second loaf and then was hung over and didn't feel like baking it the 2nd day so it rose in the fridge for about 48 to 50 hours and it was amazing. A wonderful sourdough. The recipe needs a bit more salt, which is addressed in the follow-up article, and you can bake it in damn near anything.The water measure for me came out to about 13-14 ounces. I am not a baker by any stretch, but this loaf is really hard to screw up. Give it a try.

John

By the bye, as far as registering for the Times (as if!) is concerned, enter the login/password blowme/blowme and its all yours. And then go find out what bugmenot.com is. Enjoy.

Maura

It is hard to screw up. I was worried about the loaf I made yesterday because it rose much more slowly than the one I made earlier this week. But it came out beautifully. Be careful with how much corn meal you sprinkle on it though. It can get bitter if you use too much.
I suggest reading anything Bittman puts out. He's a food god. Well he's my food god.

Claire

No one has asked the key question, which is: Where's my damn loaf, Joe? Huh? Why haven't I been summoned to your kitchen? :) I have some righteous blackberry jam (homemade, of course) that I could bring!

Joe

John: I'm glad to hear from some ex-Fowler's folks. Have you been able to find a job yet? / I concur with your adjustments. I've also accidentally let loaves overrise; I just folded them down, re-rose them, and they baked up even better. / Thanks for letting me know about bugmenot.com. I hate those required logins. Used to, cypherpunks/cypherpunks worked, but no longer. / Would you be interested in attending an ersatz wake for Fowler's sometime soon? I think the general idea would be to get together someplace like the Joyce, get really intoxicated, and tell stories about the bad old days at Fowler's.

Maura: I tasted the loaf you mentioned with the extra cornmeal and I thought it was fine. I only tasted a little piece, so maybe some portions were scorched and some weren't. And thank you for referring me to these Bittman bread articles. I've been meaning to write up something about Bittman for a while now; maybe this will spur me on.

Claire: Bread distribution has been happenstance so far. I'm also trying to get loaves to new neighbors and folks nearby to whom I owe favors. I owe you favors too, but I can't get over to your place these days. But I'll get you some bread sometime. One of the things I'm working on right now is cooking multiple loaves at the same time. When I get that down, I'll be a regular bread factory, and the loaves will roll out of my house like Hot Wheels. :)

John

I would not be interested in attending any sort of wake for Fowler's because I don't believe we've seen the last of it. As soon as everything shakes out with that place I am going to have a few things to say about the whole situation. I hope to find a prominent forum for my comments so everyone will know exactly what went down and how we all feel about it.

Joe

John: Cool; thanks. BTW, registration information and the like for my site is not required; one can stick it in or not as one chooses.

Pete

There's a guy at www.breadtopia.com who's put up his own no-knead videos. Seems to be more into sourdough no-knead.

Joe

Pete: Thanks for the link. I wonder what the blooper reels look like. :)

Paul Cook

hello Bread Clubbers,

I have made three loaves of Lahey/Bittman bread with mixed results. First one was perfect. Second was OK and stuck to bottom of cast iron pan. Third I made yesterday and it was like I added crazy glue to mixture--bread was welded to bottom of pan. Bakers, please advise as to how to keep bread from sticking. Thanks

Joe

That's really funny: I've had very little problem with sticking. I've used All-Clad, Le Crueset, a Le Creuset knockoff, and even the top part of a 2-piece crock pot. So, no problem -- Until Yesterday (insert foreboding-sounding music here).

Yesterday I baked a loaf with fairly normal ingredients in a pan I've used before (the foot-boule pan). The pan was clean, but I remember rinsing it with tap water before putting it in the oven. I remember there being a minor amount of water clinging inside the pan when I put it in. The pan pre-heated for an abnormally long period of time because of a phone call. I could smell an unusual hot smell when I got off the phone; when I looked at the pan, it had some spots that looked like they came from the water. Since I was already running behind, I put the dough in anyway. The bread looked, smelled, and tasted absolutely great -- in that respect it might be the best loaf I ever made -- but it was just about welded in. The bulk of the bread finally came out in a piece separate from the crust (except on top). The funny thing is that I also recovered the crust more-or-less whole, and it was only stuck in a few places on the bottom. And those spots from the pre-heating were still there! The spots don't make any sense, as just water wouldn't do that. A day later, I still don't have those spots out.

So: (1) Maybe my pan wasn't scrupulously clean, and the spots were from whatever the water dissolved off the pan. (2) Maybe the water itself (or any dissolved minerals/chlorine/whatever) caused the problem. (3) I wouldn't think too much pre-heating would cause a problem, but maybe so. I'm pretty sure too little pre-heating would be a problem. BTW, I was pre-heating at 500 instead of 450, too. (4) My best release experience has been when I popped a fat lump of butter on top of the dough right after I poured it in: I guess the butter melted and ran down the sides to the bottom of the pan. The bottom crust was wild. Another one almost as good was the one in the crock pot top, as it has a non-stick coating.

That's about all I can think of right now -- anyone else have any ideas?

megan

I've made this bread tons of times. I don't use a put with a lid, I just put some foil over the top and it's fine. I've also never had a problem with sticking. I use corningware pans for it.

Joe

Megan: thanks. I would have thought foil wouldn't trap enough water vapor. Is it pretty crusty? My friend Maura uses something ceramic and she's totally happy with it.

BTW, I bought a couple more footboule pans earlier, and have been using them a lot, but accompanied by my shortening idea of putting a little around the edge after dumping in the dough. But then I had another sticking incident. Argh. At least it wasn't very bad.

derrick dubois

can i use this dough recipe to make it into cinnimon rolls?

Joe

Derrick - I probably wouldn't: it'd be way too wet and difficult to work with for rolls. It's also not sweet. You probably want to use a dough you can pat out flat and put cinnamon & sugar on, then roll up and cut into pieces. Most people would use a bread dough, but you could probably find a quick-bread recipe using baking powder or soda. Hell, you could prolly do it with Bisquick. :)

SUE IN ATLANTA

Hasn't anyone thought to use parchment paper in the bottom of the pan. It works like a charm.

Joe Eater

Sue - I'd rather use the butter I'm using currently. Haven't had any problems in a long time with butter. My friend Maura used parchment for a long time, but now I think she uses butter too.

alex

I have used a cast iron pan (50+ years old, so pretty well seasoned) and there was no problem with release. Kinda heavy to deal with, though, especially when heated to 500º.

Joe Eater

Alex - Yeah, handling burning-hot cast iron can be a PITA, but it sure does cook nicely. :)

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